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Image, Ethics, and Awakening (Q & A) - (Roots into the Ground of Soul) 22 mentions

• want to start playing with all this like super fiery eros and things like that when you don't have a kind of basis
• be exquisitely sensitive to how beautiful they are and how much eros one is feeling and completely insensitive to
• uh how to deal with sexual eros in quote real relationship after the retreat for
• the soulmaking practice and one's own capacity to sort of tolerate eros to be aware of it within this imaginable way
• encourage someone to practice um with a sexual eros if it actually feels like i'm not i don't have the
• really hot you know and it's kind of almost intolerable the sexual eros um one of them is expand the energy body
• expand the energy body awareness why because yeah eros is not a problem what's a problem is craving
• sometimes the craving soothes and and if uh and that craving can then become eros so what often happens it may happen more
• remember but is there somewhere in the eros unfettered series um is if if you're able to do it and
• making practice an imaginal practice is this desire this eros this sexual energy whose is it
• so um bye-bye problem bye bye sexual eros as well
• an imaginal view which views this desire this sexual eros however hot and lusty it is however even uncomfortable and
• uh you choose your words the the divine eros is operating is seeing is desiring is that an absolute dogmatic truth no
• the the problem goes out of it but but the eros stays unlike with the anata does this make any yeah so that's quite
• an open relationship etc and then there's all this eros potentially flying around
• question is however wherein this is the eros is it between me and the image the holy
• not ease the pain and yet or is the eros to the poignant beauty in the image i would say all three so there
• the image i would say all three so there is eros in between the meditator and the image the holy altar of the scene
• um the poignant beauty of it that that there's eros towards that um but also within the characters of the
• um but also within the characters of the image there is eros um
• um one question what would you have called eros psychologos instead please
• what we might have encountered elsewhere um eros and psyche i don't know i'm not sure it matters too much but um i can't

Discernment in Soulmaking (Q & A) - (Tending the Holy Fire) 21 mentions

• work with the imaginal and when you said eros that really hit a chord for me so i was wondering if you
• becomes huge so what's the involvement of eros and sexuality so um
• um the way we're using the word eros is more than to mean sexuality so sexuality
• um but eros is this um kind of
• more to enter or fill out or open that that's what eros is it's it's a very small definition
• and eros has within it this other greek god called pothos and pothos is always
• always more so so that creates a certain dynamic eros wants this intimacy enjoys the intimacy and wants more more
• you could say that that the movement of eros is um is something that drives this whole process with the
• design sexual energy is is one manifestation of eros it's a kind of eros uh and and that within it has a
• manifestation of eros it's a kind of eros uh and and that within it has a huge range and sometimes in in the being
• this or in the even if we're doing imaginal uh work there's so much eros that it kind of has to become sexual uh
• image itself it's it's a it's um it's holding as kind of intensity of eros which which is part of the the depth and
• have the fullness of our heroes and our eros will manifest needs to be able to manifest how it kind of wants to at any
• necessary that it spreads out that way and eros is fundamentally necessary to soulmaking no eros no soulmaking
• and eros is fundamentally necessary to soulmaking no eros no soulmaking so how does that sound okay
• agreed perception then the pothos in the eros that wants more
• anything food or anything at all where there's craving the the eros it wants more and where can it go it a it has to
• engaging the sensing result and so the eros that once more can only go and i know i want another high or
• another you understand so but if i allow the eros if we use a certain language to inseminate psyche to
• allowed to become imaginal and then the more that pothos and the eros wants it gets more by the virtue of the
• getting my uh satisfying my craving eros this this um wanting more can either go into

Dukkha and Soulmaking (Part 1) - (The Mirrored Gates) 19 mentions

• soulmaking what we mean by imaginal and eros and all these other words and our larger conceptual framework
• the whole soulmaking paradigm similar ways that eros or working with desires skillfully and with discernment
• um it's sometimes possible that practicing with eros practicing with desire trying these practices practicing
• of handling and working skillfully with our eros and the energy of our desire and the movement of our desire
• and the movement of our desire that we can discern between eros and craving such an important distinction in
• does become sexual at times and involves and you remember eros doesn't only mean sexual attraction and energy but it
• maturing possible there of our fire and our eros for the path in other words a wise or mature
• um eros and image are activated and perhaps activated and ignited a lot
• question though is whether um eros is activated just in its sort of small meaning
• an image or whether the eros is really allowed to to activate and ignite the whole you're
• fizzles out whether something flares out with a lot of intensity either eros or image or something and then it breaks
• um the eros and image that might arise in relationship just being around
• soulmaking when soulmaking happens as we said eros is a factor so eros tends to
• um they can be just in the field um with the eros's that's arising which might be eros for something else
• um with the eros's that's arising which might be eros for something else entirely
• dynamic can work as we've described um before in past retreats the eros might spread
• um what tends to happen when there's eros and someone becomes image for us is that all our patterns or some of our
• rejection just as soon as i have the eros and this person it becomes alive for me as an erotic imaginal other
• um so handling all our eros desire the imaginal skillfully handling as i said

Dilemmas and Delineations: How did we get here?! (Part 3) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma... 19 mentions

• so it was uh as we've already said what we mean by eros the the way we are using that term
• so we can't really um unpack what we mean by eros without uh saying beginning to say and include
• body of work together with this uh this piece of this course on eros so if someone who uh is uh you know coming
• the eighth foreign okay the ninth is eros um
• okay so you can see the eros is the ninth term and you can see eros is um one kind
• so you can see the eros is the ninth term and you can see eros is um one kind of desire if we use that word desire as
• to the pali word chunder so desire would then include eros as a subset in in the way that we've just
• described when it does that when the desire is of that kind it's eros but it would also include desire would include
• in in the way that we might use it okay so to distinguish eros and craving different kinds of desire but cravings
• might use it in in a way that's almost equivalent to the way i'm using eros and i think that's the way james hillman
• libido in a way that sounds at first similar to the way we're using eros a desire to
• very different idea very different logos if we talk about the divinity of eros which is something we'll come back to
• the 16th um is what i'm going to call the eros psychologos dynamic or the soulmaking
• um the more the wanting more that we talked about with eros more connection more opening opening to more of the
• yummy to me more interesting more attractive it increases the eros there um and uh
• self-feeding self-generating um ongoing fertilization of eros mutual fertilization of eros psychologos mutual
• um ongoing fertilization of eros mutual fertilization of eros psychologos mutual widening deepening enriching
• much much more about that but when i refer to the eros psychologos dynamic or this i
• something we notice it's also an instance of that whole eros psychological logos

Awakening and Soulmaking (Q & A) - (Of Hermits and Lovers - The Alchemy of Desire) 19 mentions

• terms of galaxies and stars and things and there's eros with that image there's beauty and and uh is actually from a
• things like self other world and the eros itself all of which can be imaginately infused come come alive as
• um sorry i can't remember what i've said in talks but if there's a lot of eros in a soul
• hello we have eros as human beings let's start we so you can here's the thing if if
• absolutely each will unfold now we could start with eros's primary in a way this retreat is kind of leaning
• in that direction but what happens if we just pick up the eros thread and find out what eros is through our experience
• just pick up the eros thread and find out what eros is through our experience and what opens from that so a little bit
• up being really fertile so if i take let's say we take eros as primary so so it's like i i have well i have in my
• transcendent or whatever and i just trust that eros and i and i investigate the experience of eros psychologically
• trust that eros and i and i investigate the experience of eros psychologically and phenomenological what it does and
• start more from there that's where their eros goes immediately another person is seems a million miles from there
• want to go beyond form or all that stuff if we allow the eros and allow it that fire to catch
• the experience of that and the understanding of that there is eros there conceptually experientially
• this retreat is like we have this experience of eros if we if we just name it we begin to then see what it does a
• the devotion where there's devotion there's eros where this eros is devotion again this might not be so obvious at
• um my experience of devotion let me explore my experience of eros or as i said just in the imaginal here's an
• out i start to notice oh there's devotion here oh there's eros here um and then i i trust that and then
• just what i just said the devotion is where there's devotion there's eros where there's eros if we get interested
• where there's devotion there's eros where there's eros if we get interested in it and don't get in its way and allow

Aspects of the Imaginal (Part 4) - (The Mirrored Gates) 19 mentions

• um other world and eros and imaginably erotically theophanically
• um to resonate first with with eros and imaginately to resonate erotically and
• implicit there or we start with the eros or some part of the whole
• of the whole multi-directed eros that is flowing that is alive in the self other world
• um that where there is eros in the imaginal there is always and we'll come back to
• um this element of humility or this element of eros is either on or either off
• constellation is eros i've talked a lot about euros before
• sensitive to the energy body and is likely to support uh eros opening rather than craving and the contraction of
• craving it's going to support the opening of eros so eros feels like an opening it also
• opening of eros so eros feels like an opening it also opens it opens the imaginal etc we've
• but all this presupposes that i'm able to notice eros that i'm actually familiar with the experience of eros and
• to notice eros that i'm actually familiar with the experience of eros and again i'm not going to delineate
• before but that also may take some practice like oh this is eros present what is there how do i recognize eros am
• practice like oh this is eros present what is there how do i recognize eros am i familiar with it
• element or aspect or node so eros is very important in distinction to craving i said craving is a
• limits uh and contracts the possibility for soulmaking eros is more of an opening and and it opens all the
• uh beautiful quality where where there is eros and where there's the imaginal
• humility becomes an imaginal um object and an object of eros we start to have an erotic relationship with the
• grow and develop and then once it becomes itself an an object of eros once itself it itself becomes imaginal

'The Holy Life' (Part 1) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma of Desire) 19 mentions

• question of where eros is directed to in our lives and on the part of the whole exploration of
• the part of the whole exploration of eros on the path eros for the path and eros for awakening and soulmaking on
• eros on the path eros for the path and eros for awakening and soulmaking on the path soulmaking in the path the
• [music] etc so where does the eros where does the soulmaking get to go in our lives
• is this yearning this longing this desire this eros for this transcendent um this exists this eros this yearning
• desire this eros for this transcendent um this exists this eros this yearning exists and exists very very strongly in
• we'll come back to this but one possible direction of our eros and our our whole uh movement and longing of the soul is
• kind of look at the different possible directions for eros and soulmaking so we'll revisit that quote but one
• transcendent the eros the thrust of the eros and the yearning to open again if we use
• um so the pothos remember the pothos is what once more with the eros the pothos wants this more and it's kind of set
• the sense of the more and that's where the eros gets directed so there's not the spread of the eros in the in the
• the eros gets directed so there's not the spread of the eros in the in the small sense in one dimensionality
• unfabricated um nor does the um the eros just accept one-dimensionality
• cutting off the movement of the potos the movement of the eros of the more and so being accepting just what is
• what is the relationship as i said with eros and life if you like how is eros directing itself in relationship to life
• um eros you know um but it's coming actually out of
• know if we're really going to open to body and soul and sexuality and eros as a field of divinity and the world and
• um three directions and inclinations how does the eros work there where does it go and as i said at the beginning
• go and as i said at the beginning what is the movement of eros on the path or for the path and for awakening in if

Sensing with Soul (Part 1) - (The Mirrored Gates) 18 mentions

• when one might be practicing with an image and there's the eros there and that image that becomes imaginal or is
• imaginal and so there is the soulmaking and eros is involved and there there is the soulmaking dynamic that gets going
• involves catalyzes uh ignites the whole eros psychologos dynamic and their mutual insemination mutual complication
• but also the self um and the world and even ones eros and all the elements of being
• um in some instances when we practice eros and psyche and logos get involved in that sensing in that perceiving and
• right now and so they have the allure and there's the eros there or because of the zombie beyond because of the pothos
• the zombie beyond because of the pothos in the eros um and they can also be those kind of
• that soul has two directions of uh desire two directions of eros one is the whole direction
• person yet but i would say that the soul has some desire some eros in that direction some pool and magnetic
• direction if you like of its desire or eros of the way it's designed eros and points and wants to open explore expand
• fabricating some kind of clinging is it craving though or is it eros some kind also aspiration which might be
• is beyond my perception and my conception something that the eros the pothos in the eros wants to reach out
• conception something that the eros the pothos in the eros wants to reach out into connect with know become intimate
• some attenuation of grasping and some eros as well will preserve and even you know the
• you know explore all this imaginal stuff and open up the eros and um but it might be that right now that's
• the skillful sense contact is is is is um is is not to open up more eros is is the fire is already raging and and
• increases equanimity so we talk a lot about eros and fire and and all this but don't overlook the fact that this
• but also discern between um eros and craving and here again it's like the kind of

Opening to Desire and the Imaginal (Q & A) - (Of Hermits and Lovers - The Alchemy of Desire) 18 mentions

• or if it is rather the case that eros is always always alive but part of it
• life force in there it's not necessarily eros but it's a lot of life force to hold us down
• rareification is it's like that the push of the eros this eros wants to push it wants to expand it wants to penetrate it
• meets the block something's going to happen okay either the push of the eros the light force is strong enough to
• expand deeper get richer feedback on the eros make the whole thing really fertile yeah
• yeah if the block is stronger than the eros or just really entrenched then then
• or just really entrenched then then something can happen the eros cannot move into depth cannot move into
• and then there doesn't seem to be much eros yeah okay so um
• i would i would more prefer to connect the word eros with the imaginal okay so it's like it it comes and goes it's not
• whatever so where there's an image reconsolates then the eros will come back in relation with the image so it's
• transforms into something that's not eros and not imaginal so that you then you're in that state so it's totally
• um oh well um it's you know eros is connected with image and fantasy
• um or there's craving and then i can transform that into into eros yeah so you don't have to worry about like all
• you don't have to worry about like all the time there needs to be this eros or whatever
• whole imaginal thing and and with that eros yeah um i was gonna say something else um
• but also we can we can look for eros eros is present where we love where something is meaningful to us
• appreciation or whatever or the love or the dedication and there will be eros is connected with with all that in
• more subtle manifestations of euros so eros can be like raging you know or really really

Between Ikon and Eidos: Image and Hermeneutics in Meditation (Part 5 - Bodhicitta) - (The... 17 mentions

• um and without the expansion of cycling logos then the the eros and the pothos can only expand outwards horizontally at
• some years depends a lot on the soul type as well and the eros and i've talked about that elsewhere but
• aversion to the world or antique because anti-eros to the world um and more there is in living life to
• um get beyond the world then so there's something we could almost call it eros but it's really in a quite a a limited
• these days um so it's not quite eros in the way we would say but let's say something like
• self and and world and life and world but if the eros is really big and again i've talked about sort of eros is really
• but if the eros is really big and again i've talked about sort of eros is really big or if it gets to be bigger through
• and one will have at some point both an eros for the world and the eros for the beyond the transcendent the unfabricated
• whatever um and the eros for the world but if if it gets wrapped up in the allowed to
• something beyond and at the same time there will be eros for the transcendent so big eros when a person has a big ears
• there will be eros for the transcendent so big eros when a person has a big ears or when their eros is allowed to become
• so big eros when a person has a big ears or when their eros is allowed to become big and work so that it becomes big
• than that it won't just be that mild eros for life in the world in a kind of abhorrence for a beyond a transcendent
• desires as i said when when the eros is allowed to get in to stimulate and then get
• um but it's also possible that there's eros as i said for the unfabricated and then there's that particular kind of
• part of what we've talked about as part of what the eros will create and discover there's always a beyond
• relationship and coupling it's with us there's the eros both ways there's the togetherness but we never become it