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Wisdom and Desire - (Foundations of a Soulmaking Dharma) 16 mentions

• acceptable a desire for a decrease in suffering so how are we thinking about so how are
• to end desire or the desire to decrease suffering so we can kind of we have some
• um the only good desires a desire to decrease my suffering all the suffering in the world
• much as we can and just have the desire for the decrease of suffering can we begin to discern uh different
• the brilliance through the four noble truths about reducing suffering and so we're kind of we've got probably
• is it just because we want to reduce suffering something i mean there are plenty of
• and that in itself is not does it's not really about reducing suffering is it not that you love love
• good idea that i could reduce my suffering by understanding that good good okay
• levels are very much about different ways of seeing that reduce suffering as it gets deeper it becomes much more
• emptiness yes that has an effect on suffering but that's almost not what's driving a person to practice at that
• we just keep talking about reducing suffering and is it not the case that when you
• and we just keep talking about reducing suffering so there's differentiations will come
• go and what that opens up and yes freedom from suffering but much much more the the beauty and the mystery as i
• prepare to put up with a lot of suffering and again it's it's spoken of and
• conceived as what he wanted was the end of suffering or think of an artist we're talking us
• which would be like desire for meta and desire to end suffering and that's it there's this kind of bifurcation that

In Praise of Restlessness - (November Solitary) 15 mentions

• and say oh it's about it's about lessening suffering it's like okay yes it's definitely about lessening
• it's definitely about lessening suffering of course it is but in time if you practice if you practice you know
• much passion involved in their searching and so much suffering actually uh so heisenberg has some beautiful passages
• dharma you are not just in this as a set of techniques to reduce your suffering that's how we market it
• but then reducing suffering may be not that important if we're really going let's
• really see it as an art then the reduction of suffering actually becomes less important
• simplicity even the art of freedom or reduction of suffering i just mean art
• possibilities even the possibility of not prioritizing reducing suffering the reduction of suffering is not
• not prioritizing reducing suffering the reduction of suffering is not important always
• am i only interested in reducing suffering or is something else is wanted to
• hardly anyone nowadays talks about ending suffering anymore ending suffering
• ending suffering anymore ending suffering some visions of awakening i mentioned
• we're living and maybe as much as reducing suffering soulfulness could be our compass our
• notion it's not as i said only about reducing suffering art is not only about reducing suffering sometimes it is
• reducing suffering art is not only about reducing suffering sometimes it is sometimes it isn't

The Way of Non-Clinging (Part 1) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma of Desire) 15 mentions

• etc these are negative words they lead to suffering they are unskillful etc however
• as something that supports and what does it support it supports suffering but as we go deeper we'll see that it supports
• links of depend origination of the wheel of suffering as some people call it um those 12 links in fact the wheel were
• of clinging craving desire and the way it leads to suffering so we could use we could pick any example really all kinds
• not healthy this will this will cause suffering in in the future and to my health and no
• lamentation sorrow etc uh strong words but this the suffering comes out of that in this case it's just thus the view of
• can't do it i failed again i'm weak and the suffering with that but out of that stuff it doesn't stop
• but out of that stuff it doesn't stop there out of that suffering because then those self views
• process um but bringing bringing suffering bringing to god
• then we go through different scenarios um of uh how you know how suffering gets uh built up and tied together and
• physiology or the process um of of suffering in this way of clinging and suffering in this way
• um of of suffering in this way of clinging and suffering in this way and partly it's because uh something in
• ways that actually make the difference make a difference relieve suffering and disband to a certain extent i'm
• disband to a certain extent i'm suffering without that
• this smoking will um will you know of course suffering etc um the experience of craving itself that

Preliminaries, Regarding Voice, Movement, and Gesture (Part 3) - (Vajra Music) 15 mentions

• supports to the reduction of particular sorts of suffering just as the way aggregates does that's
• concepts in the service of reducing suffering it's not an ultimate truth and couldn't soul be just something
• particular way in reducing certain kinds of suffering to the word for example the word
• authentically and finally reduce the suffering of soullessness for example again if we open up what does that what
• does that first noble truth mean what kind of suffering are there and therefore what does the third noble
• and therefore what does the third noble truth mean ending suffering we could say these days there is the suffering of
• truth mean ending suffering we could say these days there is the suffering of soullessness
• in our culture suffering and part of that is suffering of meaninglessness we could bag it all
• of meaninglessness we could bag it all together as the suffering of soullessness it's also to do with lack
• um finally fully and authentically reduce the suffering of budgies that kind of suffering of the suffering of
• reduce the suffering of budgies that kind of suffering of the suffering of soullessness in fact it might even
• support it the suffering of silence may be worsened by the teachings on the aggregates if
• less as a term of vocabulary fabricates less suffering it certainly fabricates less self-sense it dissects and kind of
• direction of less fabrication of suffering and of self oh i suppose some sufferings and of some
• suffering and of self oh i suppose some sufferings and of some levels of self let's say

The Image of Ethics (Part 5) - (In Psyche's Orchard) 15 mentions

• and the notion of the fabrication of suffering of self of eventually a world of objects etc
• you start even just with the notion of the application of suffering and then have a look how itself is etc and just
• the situation what helps to reduce suffering here if that's my intention
• brings about this sense of self this sense of world this much suffering this kind of suffering
• sense of world this much suffering this kind of suffering the same dependent origination and karma
• they put it down the perspective it's just saying just reduce suffering just reduce suffering
• just saying just reduce suffering just reduce suffering this
• this just reduce sufferings goal to reduce suffering or end suffering
• just reduce sufferings goal to reduce suffering or end suffering is usually for something else even if i
• just falling the reduction of suffering is for something else
• say past a certain point of reduction of suffering something uh
• something maybe ending suffering isn't isn't there um or reducing suffering isn't the main
• maybe ending suffering isn't isn't there um or reducing suffering isn't the main thing or isn't the final goal or
• your concern in your efforts to reduce suffering and you focus on reducing suffering
• efforts to reduce suffering and you focus on reducing suffering isn't there something else another level

The Problem of Desire - (Of Hermits and Lovers - The Alchemy of Desire) 15 mentions

• and so we just say desire is a problem because it brings suffering desire leads to suffering and awakening enlightenment
• because it brings suffering desire leads to suffering and awakening enlightenment is imagined or conceived of a some state
• desire one has no desires and say desires desire is a suffering is a problem at awakening there won't be any
• us towards end of suffering or the decrease of suffering or the end of craving and
• end of suffering or the decrease of suffering or the end of craving and desire and these desire for path factors
• romantic relations do not bring the end of suffering they don't usually even decrease suffering
• of suffering they don't usually even decrease suffering but still we have in in our sort of
• um kind of understanding uh awakening enlightenment is the end of suffering and we kind of uh reduce it to really
• emphasize awakening is the end of suffering and kind of reduce it in a kind of thin and brittle way and
• essentially in in the desire for the end of suffering if that's really what's moving us then the desire for awakening
• you can look at this a few ways if you say well suffering is the second hour of you know that teaching of the buddhas
• it's for the purpose of reducing suffering for example in medical research
• or a decrease in unpleasantness or a decrease in suffering the kind of desire that's not just to
• um is suffering it it contracts the being it does not lead to soulmaking
• anything any object even an idea an emotion even a a suffering um uh a sense of divinity all of this is

On Blessed Ground: Fantasies of the Self on the Path - (Of Hermits and Lovers - The Alchemy of... 15 mentions

• a medical fantasy the four noble truths there's suffering there's a cause of suffering there is the possibility the
• there's suffering there's a cause of suffering there is the possibility the end of suffering and there's the uh what
• suffering there is the possibility the end of suffering and there's the uh what the way to the end of suffering this
• end of suffering and there's the uh what the way to the end of suffering this this is actually a medical formula the
• met what we're doing is reducing suffering where healing suffering it's a medical model and this is what we need
• somehow related to freedom what's it going to help free from suffering what's going to help alleviate suffering okay
• going to help free from suffering what's going to help alleviate suffering okay okay
• of course you want you want an alleviation of suffering and that's why you're practicing but all it takes is a
• i'm more interested in that at times than i am in the reduction of suffering just making sense
• um what am i researching well it could be the end of suffering in the medical model it be i'm actually researching
• bound up and and there's certainly an overlap with this reduction of suffering and and what's the relationship with the
• the the aliveness there it's not just the reduction of suffering there's more there's more involved there
• accruing techniques to reduce my suffering and as we talk almost as if we present
• an other if if i am in that uh reducing suffering fantasy maybe it's uh or it's not just functional it's not just you
• fantasy so that even that medical functional reduction of suffering granted gets imbued with other other

Working with the Emotional Body (Instructions and Guided Meditation: Day Six) - (The Boundless... 15 mentions

• well if there's difficulty if they're suffering if there's dukkha allowing tends to ease the suffering of what's
• suffering if there's dukkha allowing tends to ease the suffering of what's going on or any suffering the more we
• tends to ease the suffering of what's going on or any suffering the more we allow the more suffering is eased
• going on or any suffering the more we allow the more suffering is eased so this is beginning as an insight right
• so this is beginning as an insight right there the suffering that i have in relationship to an experience
• it's that that's making most of the suffering do you get it
• we're relaxing a version and grasping and the suffering begins to drain out of the experience so really significant we
• need to see this thousands of times until we really get it the suffering is in the relationship it's not in the
• the relationship and with that the suffering can can relax out of it but there's more here uh yes please
• business of doing we're in the business of easing suffering uh that's really important that's everything that
• practice is about is about easing suffering huh okay the whole arrow thing is uh a
• second arrow is about reactivity so when we're allowing suffering we're uh ducking out the way of the second arrow
• saying the second arrow of reactivity that level of suffering quietens but something else might happen which is the
• to the arrow analogy um one level is just that the suffering of it the re in the the suffering that's
• um one level is just that the suffering of it the re in the the suffering that's bound up in the reactivity to what's

Working with Anger and Aversion - (Mindfulness, Insight, Liberation) 15 mentions

• clear about that deep down and to see it as suffering to be very clear that this is this is suffering
• and to see it as suffering to be very clear that this is this is suffering cause of suffering it is suffering
• clear that this is this is suffering cause of suffering it is suffering but as i said anger is complex there's a
• in retaliation acknowledging the suffering of anger is also not
• it's not the case that to acknowledge the suffering of anger and as a force of suffering it's not saying that we never
• the suffering of anger and as a force of suffering it's not saying that we never set boundaries and we never change a
• absolutely anything so it's very human and there's suffering involved
• overreaching all practice is what is it that leads to suffering and what is it that leads to freedom
• and what is it that leads to freedom from that suffering so that's a consistent background and foreground
• this question he kept coming back to that suffering for ourselves and suffering for others and that was his
• that suffering for ourselves and suffering for others and that was his sort of rule of thumb for practice
• energies anger and aversion to actually relieve some of the suffering well there's a lot that we can notice
• practice is what suffering am i building unnecessarily this is
• absolutely fundamental question to practice what's suffering am i building unnecessarily and is it possible to just
• and aversion on and causing all this mayhem and suffering in our lives not understanding that

Sensing with Soul (Part 4) - (The Mirrored Gates) 15 mentions

• for that to be re-enchanted this pain this suffering this sorrow this
• really trying to um end suffering or for most people it's actually just decrease suffering and
• um end suffering or for most people it's actually just decrease suffering and whether that's in the moment or over
• um medical model or that intention to let's say just decrease suffering alleviate suffering
• let's say just decrease suffering alleviate suffering um
• that the desire for alleviating suffering isn't there and part and parcel of what's going on for someone
• now it may well and uh and end a certain suffering it may well just totally dissolve a certain suffering it very
• suffering it may well just totally dissolve a certain suffering it very probably and almost always attenuates or
• alleviates and sometimes to a remarkable degree and some suffering so that's very probable but again in in my way of
• oftentimes what happens is um the suffering is translated if you like or it's cast differently through
• um not necessarily the ending of suffering um but this is complex and i will
• there's some some grief or suffering of some different kind and one starts with the intention
• normal but then when the suffering is alleviated just just enough with just a
• becomes the primary intention and through that maybe their suffering is is decreased
• just said that the as the imaginal opens um suffering is decreased so there's also fluidity in terms of intentionality