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Logos in the Garden of Souls (Part 3) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma of Desire) 41 mentions

• another question rather than is it real or not real is is it soulmaking is it soulmaking so these questions are
• or not real is is it soulmaking is it soulmaking so these questions are what you know of what's important and
• what you know of what's important and what's soulmaking rather than what's real or not real
• for the soul at once soulfulness that wants soulmaking and admittedly has now come back to this we want that human
• unpacking if you like or explanation of the process of soulmaking so um
• exploring and explaining the dynamics of that soulmaking process you're a psychologos in its expansion because of
• ideas that actually supports and stimulates soulmaking it brings more eros more psyche more
• we get ideas as i said that actually support and fertilize the soulmaking process
• it is a valuable idea why because it stimulates soulmaking it supports and stimulates and gives this
• value is that it stimulates what the soul loves soulmaking it stimulates that beauty that richness
• first of all it's not necessary to the soulmaking that we believe it's ultimately true
• it's intrinsic to a certain depth of soulmaking because we realize images image
• can have infinite um soulmaking interpretations and helpful interpretations and infinite
• idea um of placing soulmaking and this this um movement of eros to stimulate the era
• enrichment all of that and what if um that soulmaking actually we take that as uh a kind of
• the soul wants it has erotic desire for another as a soul wants soulmaking it wants soulmaking
• another as a soul wants soulmaking it wants soulmaking um it wants the expansion of soulmaking
• wants soulmaking um it wants the expansion of soulmaking the growth of soulmaking the movement
• um it wants the expansion of soulmaking the growth of soulmaking the movement of soulmaking in all directions and
• the growth of soulmaking the movement of soulmaking in all directions and domains potentially infinitely
• the soul wants has an erotic desire for the expansion of soulmaking in all directions and domains
• you know the soulmaking in regard to the self in regard to the beloved other or others in
• equalized balance there they're all filled out the soulmaking movement is happening in all those directions but
• whole era psychological process the whole soulmaking movement as we as we talked about earlier and so there are
• um when one is blocked as an avenue of soulmaking or there's a stuckness there it's cramped something or other logos or
• um is not allowed to it's not allowed that the soulmaking erotic um involvement with flesh with body it
• and experiment a little bit with placing soulmaking as a really fundamental or kind of fundamental idea
• um conceived of eros as we've been speaking about it and soulmaking as the fundamental drive not pleasure seeking
• either it's just partly it's what happens in in the soulmaking process eros will
• thought about eros in the way that we're talking about it and soulmaking the way we're talking about it as
• you know all that's part of the soulmate the natural part of the soulmaking diamond the question is which one of
• um the the soulmaking movement is it doesn't lead to dissolution of the self
• it doesn't rarify itself or object but that might be a stage in the soulmaking process
• psychologically boundaried coherent self that's just a stage of the soulmaking process maybe
• and there's a kind of lopsidedness to the soulmaking opening and movement there you know what
• um with soulmaking the explanation soul making dynamic and what's involved there
• so implicit in this in the way that we're talking about soulmaking dynamic and euro psychologos and all that is
• framework and we've already said soulmaking serving soulmaking
• and we've already said soulmaking serving soulmaking and and the theory itself is part of
• soul the logos is part of of what we're calling soulmaking so in a way we discover
• uh to me a whole notion of concept that's soulmaking that's fertile to me beautiful as well

Sensing with Soul (Part 2) - (The Mirrored Gates) 40 mentions

• support open fertilize or bring soulmaking sensing the soul is just
• sensing in ways that are soulful that bring soulmaking and
• or robustness to our experiences so if we have soulmaking experience we have experiences that touch us that move us
• and uh of of what's going on of this business is soulmaking um it allows and and offers robustness
• we said was sensing in a way that was soulmaking now why do we call it soulmaking
• soulmaking now why do we call it soulmaking because as i said the work if we if we
• well what do you mean by soul and what do you mean by soulmaking or soulfulness so why do we call it soul
• making what is made what is the making what is soulmaking so i've been through this um in in
• actually before we even say that was it soulmaking and and um and we pointed out at some point in
• it can feel to us and in the in in the movement of soulmaking it will feel to us that something is given to us images
• bestows on us as graces these openings that we call soulmaking and yet at the same time then that's a
• this and we could say soul is made through soulmaking what is being made well soul is being made hence
• lattice the constellation of what is involved in soulmaking eros is involved this wanting more
• recognize soulfulness we recognize soul and we recognize soulmaking phenomenologically in other words in our
• it's more of a verb um like soulmaking it's just the ranges of ways of looking
• of available ways of looking at is that is made in soulmaking that is built that is developed
• in its activation into the soulmaking dynamic of eurocycle logos which will um review
• one one other way of amplifying what's happening in the soulmaking dynamic is that uh it has elements and and one way
• eros and psyche and logos are always involved when their soulmaking always involved when they're sensing the soul
• enumerated in the soulmaking dynamic what we were calling the soulmaking dynamical era
• in the soulmaking dynamic what we were calling the soulmaking dynamical era psychologos dynamic these elements of
• in this whole gradual movement of a soulmaking dynamic um so this can be very you know over
• whatever eros and soulmaking dynamic kind of um gets involved with that object
• and and more giving rise to more supportive of soulmaking than those kind of um
• understanding what's involved in the soulmaking dynamic um i'm
• fruitful really gives the whole movement of soulmaking much more power range fertility also it it brings
• um and and just say a bit more about logos the logos in the soulmaking dynamic in the euro psychological
• could say and i think it's this pretty fair to say soulmakings um it's complex so what we're trying to
• relation to that very concept in other words soulmaking can happen um in in relation to salt so that the
• very idea the very concept of soul is something that that soulmaking gets hold of and expands why because it's
• um and it's this never-ending expiration uh that is soulmaking and is fertile yes
• um as it as soulmaking gets going and there's
• what is um what happens in soulmaking it's an element we we get more the whole thing
• concepts soulmaking brings distinctions and certain distinctions also making
• the possibility of fertilizes the possibility of soulmaking uh so that for example again the
• desire to just it's all cravings way too simplistic that won't serve soulmaking um or even if we
• of soulmate soulmaking engenders the making of this
• kinds of levels and aspects of our being and soulmaking involves making discernments and distinctions
• um support an open and fertilize and catalyzed soulmaking catalyze this process of
• get a working understanding of the elements involved in soulmaking and what it means and what sensing the soul

The Way of Image - (Four Circles, Four Parables of Stone and Light) 39 mentions

• a few things about soulmaking dyad practice practicing in in diets in twos
• necessary if you like as a basis or to clear enough space for soulmaking dharma
• the history of that tradition and how soulmaking dharma places itself or might be placed in
• outside of the sort of um constituents of soulmaking practice so just like a person may be attracted to
• in a way integral part of the path and so very similarly with soulmaking dharma we may have heard something about
• we'd had another retreat called foundations of soulmaking dharma i think the year before and it was the
• can talk about various foundations of soulmaking dharma you know energy body awareness basic mindfulness
• when we talk about foundations or basics of soulmaking dharma there's you need this and then you can do the soulmaking
• of soulmaking dharma there's you need this and then you can do the soulmaking dharma but all those elements that most
• all of that as they become insult and and drawn into their soulmaking practices
• which senses in ways that are soulmaking or that increased soul making
• uh so is that which senses in ways that feel soulmaking and again we'd have to explain what a soulmaking mean
• feel soulmaking and again we'd have to explain what a soulmaking mean we've talked about that before
• that support and deepen and open and increase the sense of soulmaking and it's that which wants to look in
• so axiomatic to our whole paradigm is that the soul loves soulmaking the soul wants soulmaking
• that the soul loves soulmaking the soul wants soulmaking okay and so when we talk about soul
• um senses in ways that open up soulmaking and that and that wants to sense in
• this either with practicing with another with a diet or in a group is soulmaking then actually there is this feels to be
• which are sensed with the soul sensed in a soulmaking way um
• um image and imaginal and just to say soulmaking dharma also includes as we said much that isn't obviously just
• etc and soulmaking in a way also happens anytime the man
• so not saying this imaginal paradigm the paradigm of the imaginal and soulmaking and that whole path is not better or
• and also the fundamental intention of soulmaking perhaps an imaginal practice being full what we call the fullness of
• being full what we call the fullness of intention the intention for soulmaking if you like above all else including
• include everything but paramount is the intention for soulmaking these are fundamental differences among others
• describe the underlying workings of the soulmaking dynamic this this idea of endlessness of possibilities infinite uh
• open-ended possibilities for the soulmaking dynamic and the fertility there
• imaginal means all those elements are involved the whole soulmaking dynamic is involved etc and we'll talk a little
• not uh all the elements in the soulmaking um
• um and the the whole soulmaking dynamic with the hero psychologos dynamic is
• with imaginal practice and this whole soulmaking dharma one doesn't often certainly in
• of hone in and tune to whatever in an image feels the most soulmaking will come back to this
• the the redemption that opening up and the soulmaking come in the relationship to it in the recognizing acknowledging
• is what matters rather than who made this is is it soulmaking um and if it feels so making it doesn't
• changed it or whatever what matters is the sense of soulmaking so even if it comes completely unbidden and it's got
• yet so uh what matters is the soulmaking sense that's one of the nodes as well
• sense that's one of the nodes as well because soulmaking that's what makes it imaginal and this
• what feels the what are the soulful of soulmaking aspects of this image an image is a complex thing
• mind as we sort of walk this path of soulmaking dharma and practice and just helping in the

The Phoenix of Metaphysics (Part 2) - (Four Circles, Four Parables of Stone and Light) 38 mentions

• um mirrors our movement of soulmaking we've said before beauty beauty and
• we've said before beauty beauty and image go together beauty and soulmaking we could almost replace the word soul
• usefulness of at times adapting in soulmaking practice various assumptions or working log oil conceptions that are
• so with regard to the soulmaking novels or different local different conceptions within the
• local different conceptions within the soulmaking paradigm if perceptions that we have
• sometimes untrue unproven unprovable can in themselves be soulmaking or can be generative and supportive of soul
• commune all kinds of soulful sense all kinds of soulmaking all kinds of beauty all kinds of opening for the soul
• so there's this need i think there's a soul need and and soulmaking needs conceptual frameworks and ideas and the
• so there's this need for the soul for soulmaking there's a need of concept of frameworks and ideas like that
• some of them what we what we bring into the cauldron the crucible of soulmaking but still i would say that although
• so for example in the soulmaking paradigm some of the ideas that we've put out
• simple almost axiomatic proposition the soul love soulmaking soul love soul making and
• really a whole a whole structure a whole conceptual framework of soulmaking or ideas like the possibility
• or ideas like the possibility that our soulmaking is god's soul making
• making that we participate in the soulmaking of the divinity of the buddha nature
• or as a variation on that that the idea i just mentioned that our soulmaking may be at times regarded as a kind of
• desire the whole soulmaking process it's our song making is a participation
• it's our song making is a participation in that soulmaking of the divinity in in the divinities infinitiana which
• it too is organic and grows with the soulmaking dynamic in that way also now i did in our soul
• at some point organically out of the whole soulmaking dynamic as the eros with regard to our
• and then an idea like i've just described that our soulmaking is participating in the infinite giana
• participating in the infinite giana chenyana or the soulmaking of the buddha nature or god or whatever that
• that perception together then may fertilize the whole soulmaking dynamic further around crystallized or growing
• and in so doing they can open up soul making they can support more soulmaking and there are also ideas i said
• and there are also ideas i said conversely that in the soulmaking process if we don't get in the way
• um we can and there are sometimes we can we use this idea in soulmaking certainly other paradigms for example
• or is it possible that in an open of the soulmaking this idea actually spreads to see the whole of nature the whole of
• meditation through the sensing the soul through the allowing of the soulmaking dynamic in practice to open up the
• psychology spiritual work and so and and soulmaking so these ideas can be can be fertile and
• so these ideas can be can be fertile and and as i said supportive of soulmaking and not necessarily true
• lead onward meaning they lead to more soulmaking and they're also in contact with our experience and and with the
• and his theories and it may uh lead to soulmaking so our kind of inquiries into and
• in terms of the goal only of truth but of soulmaking too you understand
• yes in regard to truth but also because of the soulmaking so an individual idea an individual
• logos of concept may be may itself be a soulmaking or supportive of soulmaking a whole conceptual framework out of many
• different conceptual frameworks we can entertain may or may not be soulmaking and the whole movement of inquiry into
• part of what's wrapped up in this is what delivers soulmaking and what doesn't
• we're open to create and discover there and mediated by that is the soulmaking i'm already as part of that is the soul

'The Holy Life' (Part 2) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma of Desire) 38 mentions

• the partheos for the path means of course to talk about soulmaking um and the path soulmaking on the path
• course to talk about soulmaking um and the path soulmaking on the path soulmaking with respect to the path
• um and the path soulmaking on the path soulmaking with respect to the path um
• stimulates soulmaking it's a part of soulmaking and soulmaking always involves eros
• soulmaking it's a part of soulmaking and soulmaking always involves eros as we're using those terms they
• implicate and involve each other so eros and soulmaking um
• vision image fantasy of awakening is so talking about eros and soulmaking with respect to the path
• really separate from talking about eros and soulmaking and its relationship to the world
• um in terms of the directionality of eros and soulmaking with respect to the world so these three are connected
• plenty times hopefully by now when we talk about soulmaking we are talking about eros psyche and logos in other
• there's a bit more possibility for some kind of eros and soulmaking than with the atomistic process view but the the
• view of cutting the papancha that uh the eros and the soulmaking is limited path says
• so that therefore of course the psyche and logos the soulmaking in relation to the world is very limited
• so if a punch a craving on one side and psyche soulmaking eros on the other side
• difference in papancha and psyche papancha and soulmaking and we you know eros and craig we've talked about the
• missing ingredient or is it actually soulmaking that there is in the eros fantasies images dimensionalities
• or is there no another element of fantasy of soulmaking in relation to the food all these cooking programs all
• in the uh movement of preparing food and all that is soulmaking is fantasy is logos
• sense pleasure and papancha or is it soul is it the movement of soulmaking so
• and in the lover's touch there's this eros and soulmaking with respect to the centers that's that's in other words how
• to neutron and unpleasant we're looking at that what's the eros and soulmaking that's allowed by the conception by the
• much related to what we're talking about here with soulmaking and imaginal and heroes then you get as i said these
• whole movement of what awakening is and and the path and the soulmaking in relation to the world of the senses
• and it also as i mentioned it as a stress it limits the soulmaking and eros in relation to the senses and in
• in the third the versions either the soulmaking a vision of what we're talking about with the imaginal etc and
• um that emptiness is implicit there and uh or in the soulmaking knowing image as image
• and it has implications for eros and soulmaking in all kinds of ways yeah certainly in
• unfabricated and then then there's kind of soulmaking fantasy around that movement around the transcendent thrust
• what's it and and something that brings an embodied soulmaking into our sense experience
• into relationship there's an erotic soulmaking imagine a relationship with the experience of the senses in other
• more destructive more undermining to the erotic and the soulmaking and the imaginal than an active and clear
• certain amount of heroes determines the errors and the eros and the soulmaking shape and allow and determine
• but it's also in terms of deflating the eros defeating the soulmaking dynamic that the way that expands the way that
• actually ends up limiting the earth and then limiting the soulmaking limiting the era of psychological dynamic because
• that much erotic connection one can have with that idea or soulmaking connection again it's in itself quite a
• there and more soulmaking very different
• a logos and a vision of the path and awakening will limit the soulmaking dynamic that you're a psychologos and
• dynamic can't expand it can't flower but soulmaking movement is thwarted it doesn't have the necessary food or

The Invitation of Otherness (Autonomy, Eros, and Intentionality) - (Four Circles, Four Parables... 38 mentions

• and the fertility of the eros in terms of its insemination of the soulmaking dynamic it's
• um but still in in the domain of the imaginal and soulmaking definitely um and we mentioned the other night the
• relationship with the other which feel or are soulmaking so it's very specific we're talking about what's the
• that feel um or the r sensitive soulmaking and there's autonomy in relation to those so
• acknowledgment into our understanding of soulmaking dharma so we're not assuming uh a kind of
• conditioning of course will creep into the soulmaking and of course it will
• uh in regards to images and working in diets and some soulmaking practice mostly
• so that practice of course uh one can do in a diet in a soulmaking diet and of course going back despite what's it
• and as we've said right from the beginning in all these soulmaking teachings
• all cultures but certainly for the soulmaking dharma in the larger sense it's important this
• even some proportion of people and who are attracted to soulmaking dharma um all that has gotten very uh jammed up
• we've opened up the notion of the path and awakening in soulmaking drama is being open-ended
• being open-ended then the desire for soulmaking can be open-ended
• is is fundamental to soulmaking dharma it's really important
• there they're not approaching the soulmaking practice and imaginal practice with with
• intention not the fullness of the scope of soulmaking of intention for soulmaking all of that
• of soulmaking of intention for soulmaking all of that means and all the range and depth and
• a sexual image again let the sense of soulmaking lead you and respond to that stay and linger with
• and respond to that stay and linger with what feels soulmaking not what the mind thinks needs to happen for my healing
• can be such profound healing that comes out of soulmaking practice and imaginal practice
• sexuality was really set in a much larger intention for soulmaking unlike the first person where it really
• um she didn't have much experience with soulmaking she just heard a little bit about it thought oh this sounds kind of
• fallen in love with imaginal practice and soulmaking diamond had so much richness there she loved soulmaking and
• and soulmaking diamond had so much richness there she loved soulmaking and she was aware of that so even when she
• sexuality was i said set in this much larger intention for soulmaking that had
• in both a healing sense and a soul sense a soulmaking sense was that she um had already had access to a particular
• images and a larger commitment to soulmaking right the fullness of intention as a context in the one
• to have some love of soulmaking some experience with imaginal images and soulmaking
• some love of soulmaking some experience with imaginal images and soulmaking even though i'm
• fullness of intention it includes the it means the intention for soulmaking is paramount
• um intention for soulmaking us because we've said that soulmaking is in the
• intention for soulmaking us because we've said that soulmaking is in the service of expanding our senses of
• um sensing sacredness is actually the same as the intention for soulmaking it may or may not be but it it may be
• smaller intention than the intention for soulmaking which
• by uh by virtue of the way the soulmaking dynamic works will constantly show us
• fullness of intention that goes with the ride of soulmaking goes with the process it goes with the ascent to the
• process it goes with the ascent to the soulmaking dynamic sometimes i've wondered whether the
• part of the surprise of the journey of soulmaking is its unfathomability i don't know where it ends i can't even i

Eros Unfettered (Part 3) - (Eros Unfettered - Opening the Dharma of Desire) 37 mentions

• um various aspects of what's involved in the movement of soulmaking what's necessary
• of this so much this whole business about the soulmaking dynamic and the idea of your psychologos being
• look at this whole notion of ways of looking in relation to soulmaking we can see that certain ways of looking
• um not just limit soulmaking but actually dampen it they put out the fire of soul
• ways of looking that kind of if you like kill soulmaking some of them reduce clinging
• will not support soulmaking that kind of you and the realest flatly humanist view will
• the realest flatly humanist view will not support soulmaking second group of ways of looking is ways
• and a third group we could call um ways of looking at our soulmaking the soulmaking perspectives where there
• of looking at our soulmaking the soulmaking perspectives where there isn't this reduction going on we are we
• um can actually um become soulmaking through the relationship with that and through the
• that actually is alive to you as image um in this soulmaking soulful beautiful way
• um beautiful and soulmaking to me so far that sense of inexorable mystery
• if you like um eros in this process this soulmaking dynamic creates or fabricates or
• level is what's really real any of that will limit soulmaking it's the openness of the sense of
• it's the openness of the sense of multi-dimensionality that soulmaking that um
• encourages support stimulates soul making and conversely soulmaking opens up that sense of multi-dimensionality as
• dynamic of one process of of three facets of soulmaking and this soulmaking can be in these
• facets of soulmaking and this soulmaking can be in these three facets they can they can be open
• and that can function as a block on this song as a limit it limits soulmaking um the soulmaking movement the
• song as a limit it limits soulmaking um the soulmaking movement the soulmaking growth and expansion
• um the soulmaking movement the soulmaking growth and expansion or it might be just the idea of this
• or in relation to and that will limit the soulmaking possible or in relation to uh the sex you know this
• deepening widening fertilizing of the soulmaking now of course in in an actual
• the uh soulmaking in relationship or the for the relationship to be a fertile field
• the relationship to be a fertile field of for soulmaking for the continuing fire of the eros in that relationship
• appreciation and without that kind of basis the the soulmaking dynamic will found it won't have enough basis i mean
• problem that's just how they function the problem from a soulmaking perspective
• doesn't allow the ongoing expansion or deepening of the soulmaking dynamism dynamic and when the limit is inflexible
• of this dynamic of eros psychologos and playing together the soulmaking fecundity and fertilization there's just
• do i still have more does the soul if you like in the soulmaking process still have more room
• between the different elements if you like of the soulmaking process for the image wants to expand and the
• a way of looking so that they can be soulmaking so we're not talking about just thinking something sort of
• um building new ones that um that is soulmaking that process of engaging with the creativity of
• conceptuality of idea of mind and is itself part of soulmaking stimulates soulmaking it supports
• itself part of soulmaking stimulates soulmaking it supports um the inflaming of the eros and and the
• psychological reduction won't lead to soulmaking or will lead to very limited kind of soulmaking and
• won't lead to soulmaking or will lead to very limited kind of soulmaking and very limited then expansion of the sense

Practising with Death and Dying - (In Psyche's Orchard) 37 mentions

• um as it pertains to as it emerges from soulmaking dharma and sensing the soul practices and openings so what is our
• through this with the support of soulmaking dharma but with with the support and through the
• what i've been talking about in this series of talks and all the soulmaking dharma talks is really based on
• especially they're connected through of course soulmaking practice and sensing assault sensibility
• and is intimately woven together in in soulmaking practice and sensing the soul sensibilities
• of being so touched by a soulmaking experience having
• participation in this context in the context of soulmaking and we use it as one of the elements of
• sensing the soul and the soulmaking imaginal perception and one feels as if so much grace
• profound experience of an opening to some soulmaking experience with the imaginal sensing the soul
• possibility of just these openings sometimes with soulmaking practice that are so profound and so imbued with grace
• make me clean my heart i will bury jesus what does make me clean mean soulmaking dharma make yourself clean means means
• purify and what does that mean it means in soulmaking down the terms it means fullness of intention
• and there's a certain view but again i think with soulmaking them a practice practice
• in in the poor sense of the word view i'm really talking about soulmaking practice sensing with soul
• stone and light series when you're talking about soulmaking diet practice um but in a way like i said it actually
• dimensional in the non-soulmaking ways we consider human beings dimensional these days
• much difference but i do think in the overall kind of scope of soulmaking dharma practice there will come a time
• reversed anyway in the natural unfolding of soulmaking practice um for a time and again it's they're not
• analog from image to human we understand as part of the soulmaking diamond understanding is that they they
• is it not the kind of sense we have of things if we just open up soulmaking practice that at some point this is the
• but there's also fabrication that's skillful we've talked about soulmaking fabrication the fabrication of uh
• how can it um how can the soulmaking and the sensing cell so
• um so this is in her words now can this become soulmaking he gently asked he is me
• asked he is me can this become soulmaking can this become soulmaking he gently asked
• can this become soulmaking can this become soulmaking he gently asked reminding me through his question that
• all of that and so can this become soulmaking in theory yes it can and what will support
• friend no one was caring for the doctor through soulmaking my faith tells me this is possible i
• my faith tells me this is possible i have faith in soulmakings we've done a lot of soulmaking practice my faith
• have faith in soulmakings we've done a lot of soulmaking practice my faith tells me this is possible
• and and the question can it be soul making what will support the soulmaking here in itself that question as she says
• taking on this question can this become soulmaking i am already much less in contention with the reality of the
• see the art and the skill here just can this become soulmaking what will support that and then that question
• at once deeply human and utterly beyond can this become soulmaking yes it can and i bow
• actually um can become more soulmaking because it's like a cry out to the
• and it's all cool you know felt this the soulmaking choice to do and then contracting at this throwing away of
• care of i think what i call the other day that the poi is for soulmaking that enables us to open to song making
• allowed to galvanize and open their soulmaking dynamic neuropsychologus and mutually fertilize each other complexify

Pain, as Void and as Sacrament - (In Psyche's Orchard) 37 mentions

• include soulmaking practices in relation to pain sensing sensing pain with soul etc
• probably uh well before we go into soulmaking at least we'll just talk in terms of
• involve the sense itself and the soulmaking dynamically imaginable spread to include
• that but the question as always with soulmaking practices is it soulmaking what's what's needed here what degree of
• very very subtle but the question is right now what's soulmaking so uh careful you know not to buy into a sort
• so but also in soulmaking practice that again translates as
• again translates as you know some of these soulmaking practices and i'll describe one in a
• intensity of pain in the moment but still that's not the point soulmaking is the point when we're doing soul
• that we open up to but then when we come to soulmaking practice you know soulmaking is the
• but then when we come to soulmaking practice you know soulmaking is the point of soulmaking practices it's the
• practice you know soulmaking is the point of soulmaking practices it's the primary point and yes secondarily we can
• relief from dukkha but the primary point of solving practice soulmaking i remember recently i heard of um
• sacredness on the top even above the freedom and in soulmaking practice it's it's the sacredness too
• it's it's the sacredness too and and the soulmaking basically
• was more inclining towards seeing what was possible in terms of soulmaking practice in terms of sensing the soul so
• call what we might call the poise of soulmaking which means i need to be there with my
• the sense of soulfulness so that's part of the soulmaking point just and part of that is also confident that
• it's possible that something here can be sensed with salt soulmaking is possible in relationship to this dukkah so the
• so that's part of what we might call the poise of soulmaking the sort of space in which
• in which soulmaking the possibility of soul making are supported or prying ready for
• and also the fullness and attention the intention is the soulmaking not just relief of dukkah not just
• calling that um the poise of soulmaking or what makes the the vessel or the space ready
• makes the the vessel or the space ready for soulmaking part of what i'm calling what i have called in the past the
• image so including everything i've just said in in the poise of soulmaking including yourself and the central image
• came it's all the soulmaking poise and possibilities were there and there was a
• making poise if that's our intention for soulmaking with a certain physical pain there were a lot of elements a lot of
• working with kathleen one night and we were working together on soulmaking stuff and i asked could we do it could
• soulfully a soulmaking way in relation to the challenge in the dukkah of that the
• in ritual actually increase and support the soulmaking and when does it decrease the kind of soul
• when does it decrease the kind of soul power and the soulmaking to me this is a really really important
• um is this one going to be more helpful than that one more soulmaking and why you know so i'm going back to neoplating
• i would disagree and you know we do include rituals on our soulmaking retreats and we have included
• ritual i think is very much a part of soulmaking practice and uh i'm very interested in it and what's
• rituals that are new for the soulmaking um
• talk about what goes in to making a crucible for soulmaking we can talk about the elements of the imaginal we
• can talk about what did i call it today the poise of soulmaking of readiness for soulmaking we can talk about what
• the poise of soulmaking of readiness for soulmaking we can talk about what goes on in there

Dukkha and Soulmaking (Part 4 - Mastering the Fire) - (The Mirrored Gates) 35 mentions

• the theme of our consideration of different facets of the soulmaking movement or
• in order that soulmaking opens up and not duka so that the
• these aspects and your own soulmaking reflection is about all this your own soulmaking
• and your own soulmaking reflection is about all this your own soulmaking observations
• craving that craving contracts the being does not bring soulmaking brings dukkah etc and eros has an opening uh
• characteristic it stimulates and supports soulmaking and does not in itself lead to morduka
• metaphor image and mastering the fire so that this path of soulmaking or practices of the imaginary sensing the
• that alchemy happens in some in in the soulmaking or the alchemy of soul making happens alchemy of sensing result
• um not so much dukkah when where does the outcome of soulmaking there is generally speaking the draining away of
• meeting an interview whatever it is uh uh and a a a soulmaking meeting with a friend whatever it is and
• supports and fertilizes and catalyzes the soulmaking dynamic of your psychologos bringing with it the
• any path actually but certainly if the soulmaking path because in that distinction particularly with eros
• um coming from my soul and and will it be soulmaking is it what i really authentically want
• authenticity to my soul to my soulmaking right now does this thing that i'm setting uh that
• to my soul right now and does it bring soulmaking or something else going on there
• but in this song in this song making practice in the soulmaking path we need to be able to or to develop we need to
• it's a forged soul to create and discover soul and soulmaking forge the sense of self of other object
• forge the sense of self of other object world eros that goes with soulmaking um so again we've talked about this i've
• really helps give stability and capacity and it helps the soulmaking a logos that doesn't you know that is suspicious
• um harnessing that needs to happen for the fire to really be soulmaking but not too much too tight too small and
• that fire itself is not soulmaking just as fire itself isn't either helpful
• contained and it also needs um to spread in the soulmaking dynamic as i said spreads the vortex of euro
• again we have this is it authentic is it authentic is it soulmaking but also what's
• not that helpful not necessarily that soulmaking or they they end up yielding uh interactions in the world or
• uh interactions in the world or situations that that are not soulmaking because they're built again on some kind
• soul listen what it means for you and for us with regard to soulmaking with regard to passion with regard to eros
• it's not just me and my fire but we uh our eros our fire our soulmaking ignites um from others
• making what allows and supports a fire to be soulmaking laughs
• fire can create dukkha in the soulmaking process in the erotic imaginal process if we're not careful
• that i would conceive of the whole soulmaking process and soulmaking dynamic and there has to be a
• how do we actually uh you know have this as i said this vehicle of soulmaking be work well for us deliver what it can
• realization in in somewhere on the trajectory of soulmaking that my my desire might hear us my will even is
• a again as a genuine and i'd also say inevitable uh soulmaking perception that arises
• um inevitably at certain with a certain maturing of the whole soulmaking movement
• respond in imaginal practice and sensing the soul in the whole soulmaking path so that it doesn't create more darker or