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• most recent podcast is up on the metaverse with uh rob tursuk where we talk a little bit about what the world

EP 155 Iain McGilchrist Part 2: The Matter With Things 301

• we'll talk about later the quantum metaverse both are deterministic but i think you're making the point that at

Currents 017: Bret Weinstein on Unity 2020 294

• to me like uh i was in one of those alternate branches of the metaverse in the uh

EP142 Robert Tercek on the Metaverse 259

• college education check it out today we're going to talk about the metaverse maybe the next big thing in technology
• so let's start with rob what the hell is a metaverse a great starting point well it's at the
• there's there's a couple different ideas so simply put the metaverse would be a very high fidelity digital
• and there are a bunch of different visions for what the metaverse could be so we can talk about that because in my
• view there's at least a half dozen ways to think about the metaverse and they're not all the same as what you may have
• world are they escaping into and so in in the stevenson's book the metaverse is not a fun place the metaverse is quite a
• in the stevenson's book the metaverse is not a fun place the metaverse is quite a dangerous place where individual humans
• you will uh whereas in klein's world the metaverse is an oasis that's what it's called and it's meant to be the super
• because there are really two gigantic concepts of the metaverse one is where it's a you know kind of a disneyland
• in fact okay when i was doing the research on the metaverse prior to this call i knew a little bit about it but as
• distributed metaverse is going to be a real challenge we can talk some specifically
• first movers get big advantages so even if a really great distributed metaverse might be possible in 15 years if
• critical mass to occur in a distributed open and uncensored metaverse jim it's an excellent point and it
• 2021 where he set forth a vision of the metaverse it sounded very much to me like aol in 3d yep that was actually a
• vision and so i wouldn't describe facebook's vision as the metaverse i would describe it as a proto-metaverse
• facebook's vision as the metaverse i would describe it as a proto-metaverse and in that in that way the analogy to
• what the mass of people think is the metaverse define the concept control the concept and
• to enable millions of people to go build their own version of the metaverse and to me this is going to be clearly a lot
• the web's not like that at all and you know a facebook version of the metaverse will definitely be like that on steroids
• going to be fundamental to how the metaverse plays out and the simple idea there is are you going to be locked into
• i think it's inevitable to say that there'll be multiple metaverses that seems inevitable just because of the
• really can't have say two billion people in one metaverse today no way right he's not actively engaging with each other
• and so there will at least be many sharded implementations of metaverses for a long time to come
• could see something like that happening here in the metaverse someone comes up with a interoperability standard for
• the uh the open rather than the walled garden version of the metaverse be very interesting to watch the evolution of is
• know different versions of the exact same metaverse you're going to start to see those those
• tech platforms so so today right now as far as i can tell there is no metaverse concept that's fully interoperable where
• prototype for a fully decentralized version of the metaverse right and so the big battle there and you touched on
• just too much at stake and particularly for facebook the metaverse if it's fully realized in the way that we're
• a full implementation of the of the metaverse where you can roam from world world and create your own that's a key
• version or an ar version of the metaverse possible yep and in fact as i was digging around it becomes clear that
• to get us into the different definitions of the metaverse beyond the simplistic you know sort of dualistic vision i've
• minutes let me share with you even more ideas about what the metaverse might be because it's these simple binary
• whole great big concept for the metaverse and it's very very possible that that's where it's going to gain
• to invest heavily in this kind of metaverse now you might think well how do those things pertain right because
• fragmented experiences between one metaverse and another and i can think of lots of use cases where we want to be
• the transfer of certain things and so when we talk about the metaverse and we think of multiple versions of the
• think of multiple versions of the metaverses of millions of digital twins simulating even entire cities and
• it's uh that's why i call facebook's attempt a proto metaverse because it can't possibly encompass all the use
• let's go back and assume this really open-ended metaverse world with all kinds of creations in them someone's got
• employ millions of people in our metaverse just building and i go i hope not but it's certainly interesting
• envision isn't one or two or ten metaverses but millions of metaverses now your point is good most people don't
• year and in their s1 filing they talked about the metaverse but the key point there is they're not the ones building
• there is they're not the ones building the metaverse they're building the tools and the
• but as we've already talked about a lot of these concepts for the metaverse require 3d
• and so if you can build a game world you can probably build a metaverse right the skill set's similar
• building a business whether it's a metaverse or a set of tools or anything else frankly in digital media
• az16 has been a pretty much a player in the metaverse and virtual reality etc and he had a really haughty series of
• you know we got to think about the metaverse as uh you know getting around reality privilege was the word he used
• dive apartment doesn't come and cut my throat you know metaverse will be great of course say this but this is you know
• getting at you know let us have the metaverse so mr 35 year old angry uh male doesn't come and kill all of us
• and fancy threads and a uh you know a ai girlfriend in the metaverse right and you know i think about that is leading
• so we live in digital feudalism already and one way to think about the metaverse is a hyperextension of this like you
• of being self-employed now in the metaverse this illusion is going to be extended and of course
• even than tick tock we're nuts if we deploy the metaverse without some clearance on whether they're net
• sufficiently with advertising now you do and of course in a metaverse you will also have lots of transactions built in
• if there are truly millions of digital worlds or virtual worlds or metaverses whatever we want to call them the
• found just the best for understanding many of the issues around the metaverse which is matthew ball matthew ball dot
• which is matthew ball matthew ball dot vc his primer on the metaverse like 10 articles on various topics of the
• articles on various topics of the metaverse just remarkable well worth reading for anybody do you have any
• r-a-d-o-f-f in building the metaverse and he's written a number of very thoughtful blog
• posts about the building blocks of the metaverse the elements that'll go into it but honestly these days if you search
• it but honestly these days if you search metaverse you're going to get inundated with stuck has been a ton of press about
• extra shallow i follow a bunch of those links type metaverse and restrict the search to the last week it's like

Currents 079: Douglas Rushkoff on Tech Escapism and Critiques of GameB 251

• game b right can't be it'll be in the metaverse yeah good luck with that one no i will say
• seriously considering taking the mennonite route away from the metaverse that
• crazy here in late-stage game a and that gets sucked into the metaverse you know you hear some of these very cynical

EP69 Rachel Haywire on Free Thinking & Expression 221

• she is a philosopher and writer in the uk miss metaverse a futurist and we even have zach voorhees the google

EP 152 Gary Bengier on Hard-Science Futures 189

• wise person in some sense you know every time but the metaverse and stuff there's a couple of things
• future world i don't think that the metaverse is going to be that big of a thing quite honestly um i think that we
• enjoy so much being in the real world um but you know this part the metaverse will be tertiary to our existence um you
• them and this is an example of using sort of a metaverse to better inform oneself so yeah we have this sort of
• people in their physical life as long as they got lamborghinis in the metaverse right to stuff some words he probably
• far from that i hope it's not true that the metaverse is the spice on the meal not the main course but we shall see one

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• momentum right now in this metaverse space and so much support for including from investors
• quite exactly right and talk about the metaverse of course this is a classic science fiction trope
• that's a long time ago and ideas like the metaverse have been out there at least that long and
• has been sucked into this amazingly cool metaverse now we're off track here entirely no
• saying that they hope to build the metaverse right you know you're being a game
• what do you see as the race to the metaverse who's ahead who's working on it who's got
• really interesting unexpected ideas what's the metaverse race look like it's a great thing well this is a super
• it is absolutely a battle for who controls monetization in the metaverse and the stakes are super high and like
• referred to they are absolutely committed to building out the metaverse as it was set forth by say william
• year and our timeline is in 2025 our timeline on this metaverse stuff is probably
• by the way that's the flip side of the metaverse right so now what we're talking about is
• hand you've got this vision for the metaverse which is a very very richly conceived
• invented things okay so that's the metaverse and sexual versions that gravity would not allow
• these two visions this idea of the metaverse a fully digitized world and this idea of
• but as you can see from the comments about the metaverse it's also very quickly capturing the imagination
• the most amazing this idea of the digital twin and the metaverse co-evolving which i'm gonna have to
• now we're bringing it all home here but yeah quantum computing in the metaverse is a gigantic topic for the future

Currents 058: John Robb on Russia-Ukraine Outcomes 62

• sometimes i wonder in this branch of the metaverse right right right all right thanks john i'm sure you'll be

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• cyberspace particularly once we have a metaverse or we can put on you know vr glasses a mask and spend our entire day