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EP 151 Daniel Mezick on Ritual and Hierarchy 12

• they go to great lengths to squelch the emergence of common knowledge that's outside of the narrative that they want
• towards dominance and submission and thereby the emergence of hierarchy right they look at chimps in particular i mean
• that was rigorously evolved and tuned to avoid the emergence of big men and people who were bosses

EP 164 John Markoff on the Many Lives of Stewart Brand 9

• were fading it would be four years before the emergence of haight ashbury in the hippies and five years before the

Currents 064: Michael Garfield and J.F. Martel on Art x AI 7

• and i'm really reading this whole kind of historical moment this emergence of the ai artist
• difference let's look at like the emergence of punk right so the punk is not just a type of music
• possible in pug right so the the sudden emergence of the new in art and culture is i don't know
• philosophically bergson of the sudden emergence of a qualitatively new situation that simply could not have

Currents 049: Ashley Colby & Jason Snyder on Doomer Optimism 7

• know not fully relying on stumbling into emergence but you know there is some we've had a conversation where like what

EP 159 Bobby Azarian on the Romance of Reality 2

• phenomena and that's what complexity science and the paradigm of emergence includes
• what's called far from equilibrium so you get the spontaneous emergence of organization
• whirlpools anything where you see the emergence the spontaneous emergence of order in the
• anything where you see the emergence the spontaneous emergence of order in the world when that happens it's because the
• came into being all around the sudden emergence of a specific technology which i suspect was closely
• question and it's really complicated you're right that the emergence of eukaryotic cells which was necessary to
• likely i think that basically you will get the emergence of multicellularity once you have eukaryotic cells
• intelligence because you will have the emergence of increasingly complex niches so when life emerges at first if you buy
• that over evolutionary time you will have the emergence of species that have to solve a more
• species because of this idea of niche emergence so yeah it goes back to kaufman i can't uh take credit for that
• untapped source of food through this process of niche emergence yeah that was i never heard that idea
• i'm saying is that this process due to the niche emergence mechanism you described will create an increasingly
• conscious and so when we talk about the emergence of agency yeah i think that's something that i have to be clear
• ratchets up complexity and intelligence we talked about niche emergence there are evolutionary arms races so i think
• came true with the emergence of the internet so the internet is connecting humans in
• then you start to see cosmic evolution as a process of recursive emergence and hierarchical self-organization we get
• association he thought that it would be some sort of spiritual emergence but i don't think he was necessarily
• we should draw a line it's way after the emergence of neurons and rudimentary brains and rather a specific
• are to allow for the emergence of life so if you tweak the the strength of the force
• farther by saying if you have the emergence of a universe with intelligence that can actually
• multiverse so you have the inevitable emergence of life because the conditions that are are good for creating black

Currents 053: Matthew Pirkowski on Grammars of Emergence 2

• did and it turned out we both have an interest in the concept of emergence you know regular listeners to the show no
• really happy to uh talk to you today about emergence in all things related i guess on the eve of this interesting new
• better understanding of what this process of emergence is and how it can be applied
• referring to so emergence and interesting and to my mind extraordinarily important topic but
• let me throw out a definition of emergence and then once you react to it this is more
• then once you react to it this is more or less a textbook example emergence occurs when an entity is observed to
• interesting example of of a way of looking at this concept of emergence that actually ties into
• you look at where the concept of emergence first came from it actually goes all the way back to js mill
• properties that were in theory the source of that emergence to begin with right that's the loop that's the weird
• the classic interesting challenge of thinking about emergence and and yeah exactly and that gordian
• book anyone who's interested in emergence it's probably the book that i would recommend above all others
• the fact that if you look at the traditional ideas of emergence and you say that emergence is actually a system
• traditional ideas of emergence and you say that emergence is actually a system where you get something in addition to
• that book for understanding about the emergence of language but i have to go back and read that book on emergence
• emergence of language but i have to go back and read that book on emergence anyway two things i'd like to say one
• as the basis for emergence i would say yes in fact the two people i get my thinking about
• two people i get my thinking about emergence from principally would both agree and i think did so long before
• the most from with respect to thinking about emergence is harold morowitz he wrote a book called the emergence of
• about emergence is harold morowitz he wrote a book called the emergence of everything where he literally starts out
• with the big bang lays out 28 levels of emergence from the big bang itself and 27th is philosophy 28th is the
• says that pruning rules are key to emergence right and that pruning rules can come in
• who i've taken a fair bit from with respect to thinking about emergence is john holland a very good book called
• john holland a very good book called emergence from chaos to order and it's i would say a more narrow book
• worlds which is mostly what he explored to get emergence again you can't be exploring all possibility spaces you get
• explorations and concepts um in the domain of emergence so yeah he's definitely a posteriori or after many of
• is where we get into these questions of more generalized emergence these regimes based on preferential symmetry breakage
• degrees of freedom that that gives for emergence in our mimetic space it's called the meme space i think we truly
• systems that are far from equilibrium and that the emergences tend to actually be what he calls
• and in some sense this energy is the fuel that allows emergence to occur and then the structures that emerge
• out and the stuff in between are emergences that are powered by the system being far
• john holland one of his descriptions of emergence this was an attribute of some kinds of emergence and you would argue
• emergence this was an attribute of some kinds of emergence and you would argue that evolution tends to push towards
• advertisements um upriver it's a new emergence essentially the fact that this ecosystem of capturing eyeballs to
• on late night cable tv for two for 19.95 it's really an emergence quite literally from the new ecosystem that this
• yeah this is where you get to the concept of emergence taken literally and not by analogy we can think of some of
• the work that we're trying to do as engineering for emergence but emergence that we think at least of course one of
• that we think at least of course one of things about emergence you don't really know exactly what you get but you have
• rates and that would produce a different emergence than the kind of stuff that we see on facebook for instance yeah
• some new functionality in other ways produces a different emergence and so thinking about your pruning rules to get
• know probably part of what it means to be doing engineering for emergence yeah yeah 100 and i think that it's also
• that that actually has a lot to do with this concept of emergence is probably a grasping at the idea of
• some information fairly soon now we've talked about emergence from the definitional level we talked a bit about
• for what i called engineering for emergence now let's turn back to what originally caused me to reach out to you
• had some ideas around the grammar and axioms of emergence what can you say particularly about the grammar of
• particularly about the grammar of emergence what do you mean when you say that
• transition and the perspective of emergence with you know with respect to
• and so when i'm talking about this grammar of emergence or axioms of emergence what i'm trying to kind of get
• grammar of emergence or axioms of emergence what i'm trying to kind of get at is a a different way of approaching
• any frame of reference for talking about emergence or bottom bottom-up order how did we approach reality how do we
• and how those patterns those grammars of emergence can be used as containers or locations

EP 167 Bruce Damer on the Origins of Life 1

• of santa fe institute you know the great search for the origins of emergence itself of complexity itself through
• point-to-point nodal based network emergence in the the sludge in the gel phase when everything is jostled
• pro genean where life is emerging this this epoch of life's emergence we don't have to have a high fidelity replicators
• from underneath microbial emergence mars probably and so martians are always going to be helophilic

EP 157 Terrence Deacon on Mind’s Emergence From Matter 1

• guests we're going to talk about emergence you know david krakauer matt perkowski we had on recently jessica
• were appropriate for the for the task so let's start with emergence a key term my good friend now deceased harold morowitz
• wrote a famous book on like 27 layers of emergence or something which i believe you referenced in there and why don't
• you give tell the audience what to your mind emergence is so emergence has had a modestly long
• mind emergence is so emergence has had a modestly long history back into the end of the 19th
• for a period of time and then it emerges and i think the term emergence had this sort of sense we think about emerging
• recognize that maybe we could think about emergence differently and it became more and more applied to things
• from self-organizing processes that seemed to be an emergence why did that seem to be an emergence well it seemed
• seemed to be an emergence why did that seem to be an emergence well it seemed to be an emergence
• seem to be an emergence well it seemed to be an emergence because all the tendencies were going
• not for rocks and yet there are two ways to look at emergence here one is that you know this capacity was always there
• right kind of system that's one way to think about the emergence problem the other way to think about it is that it
• sodium and chlorine and the emergence of new properties in salt
• think that that's an interesting feature of the emergence process that that the organization that's there is an absence
• into this problem of thinking we've actually thought of emergence as adding something and i asked the question maybe
• something and i asked the question maybe we should be thinking about emergence as something being removed and by virtue of
• great in fact okay let's continue this in the context of about emergence and things like emergence you use
• in the context of about emergence and things like emergence you use constraints quite specifically in this
• morowitz's use of the idea of pruning rules that each emergence is the result of pruning rules that chemistry emerges
• brief the idea of constraint with respect to emergence and things like emergencies well i agree with with
• the matter which is three layers of emergence which you've defined and i i think i'm gonna just let you take your
• wanted to then link these ideas to the concept of emergence and to get us away from what i thought
• were the ways we confused ourselves when we talk about emergence so homeodynamic processes are basically
• previous absences and that's i think the essence of emergence and that's indeed the at least metaphorical equivalence to
• it's a little more complicated and it requires a new level of emergence so the distinction between subjective sentience
• that for me is the essence of the emergence problem and why the very essence of what we are is an emergent
• new fundamentally different that's the emergence story and so what i'm trying to say is that